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S 40 1.9TD
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Autor/ica:  marko09 [ uto lis 20, 2009 3:03 pm ]
Naslov:  S 40 1.9TD
Interesira me koliko vam troši auto? Dakle radi se o 1.9 TD '97 90KS

Dok sam ga uzeo trošio je oko 9 litara i kad je počeo trošit 12 otkrio sam da netko nije dobro zatvorio tank (ne di se toči gorivo već tamo di je plovak) trenutno je oko 7-7,5 normalne vožne pa me interesira jel to normalna potrošnja za taj auto ili još nešto nije u redu?

Isto tako u zadnje vrijeme primječujem da se okretaji u leru bez nekog posebnog razloga nekad počinju dizat i spuštat (ne strašno sa oko 800 do 1100 i nazad)... nakon nekog vremena se smire i sve normalno dalje... Do čega bi to moglo bit?
Autor/ica:  zeljkos40 [ uto lis 20, 2009 4:53 pm ]
Naslov:  Re: S 40 1.9TD
meni troši na otvorenoj vožnji brzinom 130 oko 6 kombinirano oko 7,5
Autor/ica:  richi [ uto lis 20, 2009 7:07 pm ]
Naslov:  Re: S 40 1.9TD
slična stvar. malo više bude sad za zimu, ali ništ ozbiljno
Autor/ica:  Distinctive [ uto lis 20, 2009 10:35 pm ]
Naslov:  Re: S 40 1.9TD
pa jel moguće da tolko troši, meni se čini da moj meni manje, jest da je motor iz 99. (druga generacija motora) al sumnjam da to igra neku veliku ulogu...
Autor/ica:  alen-kt [ uto lis 20, 2009 11:18 pm ]
Naslov:  Re: S 40 1.9TD
Moj troši u prosjeku 6,5-7 litara kombinirane vožnje
Autor/ica:  Distinctive [ uto lis 20, 2009 11:25 pm ]
Naslov:  Re: S 40 1.9TD
tak je meni nekak računica i za mog.
doduše nemogu sad ni ravno izmjerit pošto mi ne radi maf senzor pa troši pol litre-litru više, barem mi je tak rečeno
Autor/ica:  marko09 [ sri lis 21, 2009 9:43 am ]
Naslov:  Re: S 40 1.9TD
Dakle ova moja potrošnja ispada normalnom... nadao sam se da je bar litru manje i da se jos nesto da slozit...

Sad kako je malo zahladilo, ujutro grijace dva puta grijem i onda upali "na zub"... ako ih zagrijem samo jednom onda prvih 10ak sekundi radi dosta nemirno. Jos u ljeto mi je mehanicar promjenio jedan neispravan grijac sa grijacem od golfa?! pa me interesira dal netko zna jel ta kombinacija funkcionira ili ne? Ovo mi je 2gi diesel u zivotu i jedva cekam zimske radosti :D :lol:

Problem sa okretajima na leru nije ucestao?
Autor/ica:  dgovorcin [ sri lis 21, 2009 12:46 pm ]
Naslov:  Re: S 40 1.9TD
Ne znam jel funkcionira ili ne ali ovo ti je P/N grijača za tvoj bolid 30816732 pa provjeri na netu jel to istionaj koji ti je majstor utjerao u mašinu :wink:
Autor/ica:  Distinctive [ sri lis 21, 2009 2:30 pm ]
Naslov:  Re: S 40 1.9TD
huh vidiš, ja sam mislio da mi je problem u grijačima kad mi neće upalit, i grijo sam ga par puta pa upali nekak kilavo, i onda mi je jedan majstor ispitao i rekao da nisu grijači već nepovratni ventil nafte, znači uštedio sam dosta s time
i sad se podsjetih da moram narućit to govno, odoh u autoshop :D
Autor/ica:  Pedjo [ sri lis 21, 2009 9:09 pm ]
Naslov:  Re: S 40 1.9TD
A šta je to "nepovratni ventil nafte"?
Autor/ica:  marko09 [ sri lis 28, 2009 8:17 am ]
Naslov:  Re: S 40 1.9TD
Moja priča sa okretajima nema sretan svršetak :(

Jučer naveće auto je u vožnji počeo nacukavat i gubit snagu, u leru okretaji na 500... dovučem se doma, jutros upali bez problema i sve 5 nakon sto se zagrijao opet isti problemi... kao neki safe mod uopće nema snage, svako malo veće dodavanje gasa nema smisla... sto me čudi je da auto i dalje ne dimi i ne gasi se na leru :think:

Ono sto mi sad pada na pamet su razni senzori za zrak i naftu... pa ako zna netko gdje su ti senzori da provjerim konektore na njima... Imate neku preporuku gdje odvesti auto na dijagnostiku? Koliko to košta u ovlaštenom? :?:

Ako ima netko koji pametan savijet nek se slobodno javi :)
Autor/ica:  dgovorcin [ sri lis 28, 2009 10:57 am ]
Naslov:  Re: S 40 1.9TD
Zanimljiv je onaj dio "sve 5 nakon sto se zagrijao opet isti problemi" jer ECM čita podatke o radnoj temperaturi motora. Neki dan sam slal PM o tome kak dela ECM pedji pa ti ih on može forvadirati ili se strpi do navečer da ih ponovno napišem.
Autor/ica:  dgovorcin [ sri lis 28, 2009 11:10 am ]
Naslov:  Re: S 40 1.9TD
U stvari ajmo na brzinu ovak:
Engine control module
General
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The Lucas DPI-N is an integrated engine management system. The system is used in the S40/V40 diesel which uses the diesel engine already in use in the 400–series.
The engine control module (ECM) controls:
-injection timing
-the EGR system
-idle speed control
-glow plug preheating and post-heating
-air conditioning (A/C) compressor.
The engine control module (ECM) controls injection timing but not the quantity of the fuel injected. The quantity of fuel injected is governed by pump speed and boost pressure.
The control module exchanges information with:
-the Volvo system tester (ST) via the data link connector (DLC).
The engine control module (ECM) has an on-board diagnostic (OBD) system to record diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs). The engine control module (ECM) can be diagnosed using the Volvo system tester (ST) via the data link connector (DLC).
The engine control module (ECM) is located behind the center console in the same position as the Fenix control module in gasoline driven models.

List of input signals
Overview
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The engine control module (ECM) (1) not only controls injection timing it is a complete engine management system.

Engine speed (RPM) sensor (2)
This provides TDC and engine speed (RPM) data and is used for:
-injection timing
-glow plug post-heating period
-tachometer.

Intake air temperature (IAT) sensor (3)
This provides information about intake air temperature (IAT) and is used for:
-controlling the EGR system.

Injector 1 (8)
This indicates injection timing in cylinder #1 and is used for:
-actual injection timing (feedback).

Accelerator pedal (AP) sensor (5)
This provides the engine control module (ECM) with information about engine load and is used for:
-controlling the EGR system
-setting glow plug preheating and post-heating periods
-switching the air conditioning (A/C) compressor on and off.

The instrument (7)
This indicates vehicle's road speed and is used for:
-switching the air conditioning (A/C) compressor on and off at low road speeds.

Altitude sensor (1)
This is integrated with the engine control module (ECM) and is used for:
-setting glow plug preheating and post-heating periods
-controlling the EGR system.

Engine coolant temperature (ECT) sensor (4)
This indicates engine coolant temperature (ECT) and is used for:
-setting glow plug preheating and post-heating periods
-controlling engine idling speed.

The air conditioning (A/C) switch (6)
This is located in the heater control panel and indicates if the air conditioning (A/C) is switched on. It is used for:
-controlling engine idling speed
-switching the air conditioning (A/C) compressor on and off.

List of output signals
Overview
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The control module (1) transmits the following output signals.

Idle control valve (2)
This controls engine idling speed. Engine idling speed depends on:
-engine coolant temperature (ECT)
-position of the air conditioning (A/C) switch.

EGR control valve (3)
This controls the EGR system. The control is dependent on:
-engine speed (RPM)
-engine coolant temperature (ECT)
-engine load
-outside air temperature
-atmospheric pressure.

Air conditioning (A/C) relay (10)
This controls the air conditioning (A/C) compressor (11) as a function of:
-the position of the air conditioning (A/C) switch
-vehicle speed
-engine load
-engine coolant temperature (ECT).

Injection timing valve (4)
This controls injection timing, as a function of:
-engine speed (RPM)
-the current injection time
-engine load
-engine coolant temperature (ECT).

Glow relay (8)
This controls preheating and post-heating periods. The relay controls the two sets of glow plugs (9) as a function of:
-engine load
-engine speed (RPM)
-engine coolant temperature (ECT)
-atmospheric pressure
-time elapsed.

Glow plug warning lamp (6)
The lamp in the dashboard is lit during the preheat phase.

Malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) (7)
The lamp on the dashboard lights up if the control module detects a fault in the:
-engine speed (RPM) sensor
-needle lift sensor
-load sensor
-injection timing valve.

Tachometer (5)
The tachometer (5) on the dashboard indicates engine speed (RPM).

Data link connector (DLC) (12)
The engine control module (ECM) has a diagnostic interface with the data link connector (DLC).
Autor/ica:  marko09 [ sri lis 28, 2009 1:20 pm ]
Naslov:  Re: S 40 1.9TD
Interesantan je ovaj ECM... jer tokom ljeta sam imao par slučaja da kad bi upalio klimu da bi se kompresor palio gasio u razmaku od sekunde, problem bi rijesio da ugasim klimu i upalim ponovo bez nekih problema... Dakle ne gine mi dijagnostika i zabava u ovlastenom :(

Jos cu samo prije nego odem do ovlastenog optimistično promjenit filter nafte...

dgovorcin puno hvala na odgovoru! :clap:
Autor/ica:  dgovorcin [ sri lis 28, 2009 1:58 pm ]
Naslov:  Re: S 40 1.9TD
Molim, nema na čemui drugi puta. Diagnostika u ovlaštenom servisu će ti reći što ne valja. No ne moraš tamo i poravljati kavar, pogotovo ako se radio samo o zamjeni nekog senzora kojeg se da kupiti i preko interneta. A i neke stvari vezane za "bosch" insatalaciju su jeftinije u specijaliziranim servisima negu u Volvu. Na stranu sad orginalnost dijelova. Neka ti na svom primjeru kaže kolega s foruma pedja. :handgestures-fingerscrossed:
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